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		<title>By: Late Night</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/featured/review-artrage-3-road-test/comment-page-1/#comment-3058</link>
		<dc:creator>Late Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Net Rage&quot; indeed! :-)

I can see that individual practically foaming at the mouth. 

Well said, Manas.  

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Net Rage&#8221; indeed! <img src='http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can see that individual practically foaming at the mouth. </p>
<p>Well said, Manas.  </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Manas</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/featured/review-artrage-3-road-test/comment-page-1/#comment-3022</link>
		<dc:creator>Manas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review. Having tried out both ArtRage3 and Painter11, Painter11 does have the features that easily supersede ArtRage. On the flip side, as Bob and Ken pointed out, it is quite bloated. The high CPU usage with both programs was however really very disappointing. The doubling of the price for ArtRage&#039;s pro edition might not appeal to everyone but it is still considerably cheaper than Painter. ArtRage definitely seems to be the program to go for if you are starting out in digital art and/or if you have a limited budget. It would be nice if ArtRage is able to steer clear of the &quot;bloatware&quot; path that Painter seems to have taken and of course fix the high CPU issue.  Unfortunately even though many people reported the high CPU issue with Painter11 when it first came out, the subsequent service pack hasn&#039;t fixed it. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but sadly there isn&#039;t really a viable open-source or free alternative to either Painter or ArtRage.  There are ways to do things in GIMP but it isn&#039;t a dedicated product for this purpose.

The commenter flynn makes some valid points. However, they seem to be more of a difference in perspective than any technical fallacy in the review. It was amusing to see the other ArtRage &quot;advocate&quot; though. He first makes crass ad-hominems without any technical aegis of his own. Then, on his vested interest being exposed, rants like the insidious school bully trying to wheedle out of being taken to the principal on being caught red-handed while playing a prank. No pun intended to ArtRage for which I have high hopes, but that was  a very good example of &quot;net rage&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review. Having tried out both ArtRage3 and Painter11, Painter11 does have the features that easily supersede ArtRage. On the flip side, as Bob and Ken pointed out, it is quite bloated. The high CPU usage with both programs was however really very disappointing. The doubling of the price for ArtRage&#8217;s pro edition might not appeal to everyone but it is still considerably cheaper than Painter. ArtRage definitely seems to be the program to go for if you are starting out in digital art and/or if you have a limited budget. It would be nice if ArtRage is able to steer clear of the &#8220;bloatware&#8221; path that Painter seems to have taken and of course fix the high CPU issue.  Unfortunately even though many people reported the high CPU issue with Painter11 when it first came out, the subsequent service pack hasn&#8217;t fixed it. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but sadly there isn&#8217;t really a viable open-source or free alternative to either Painter or ArtRage.  There are ways to do things in GIMP but it isn&#8217;t a dedicated product for this purpose.</p>
<p>The commenter flynn makes some valid points. However, they seem to be more of a difference in perspective than any technical fallacy in the review. It was amusing to see the other ArtRage &#8220;advocate&#8221; though. He first makes crass ad-hominems without any technical aegis of his own. Then, on his vested interest being exposed, rants like the insidious school bully trying to wheedle out of being taken to the principal on being caught red-handed while playing a prank. No pun intended to ArtRage for which I have high hopes, but that was  a very good example of &#8220;net rage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Howle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Howle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI there, 

Well sorry but I fail to see why you stalk me and slander me.  Mr. no name. humm thats you LATE NIGHT. I guess you work for BOB, hu? secret agenda....???? Yes now we know the truth. 

Shame on you BOB for allowing this criminal activity on your blog. You are promoting it so it must be meeting your approval/request and makes you legally liable too. 
If you do not want professional opinions, then continue your mission of ignorance and slander the pros. hehe

BOB and LATE NIGHT ( whatever your real name is) if you wish to continue this childish game....lets take it to court.??? Are either of you man enough to be responsible for your rude and slanderous words and actions? Thought not.
If you want to test me....just let me know by saying something else.
You know where to find me and I, you both. legally..so whats it going to be boys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI there, </p>
<p>Well sorry but I fail to see why you stalk me and slander me.  Mr. no name. humm thats you LATE NIGHT. I guess you work for BOB, hu? secret agenda&#8230;.???? Yes now we know the truth. </p>
<p>Shame on you BOB for allowing this criminal activity on your blog. You are promoting it so it must be meeting your approval/request and makes you legally liable too.<br />
If you do not want professional opinions, then continue your mission of ignorance and slander the pros. hehe</p>
<p>BOB and LATE NIGHT ( whatever your real name is) if you wish to continue this childish game&#8230;.lets take it to court.??? Are either of you man enough to be responsible for your rude and slanderous words and actions? Thought not.<br />
If you want to test me&#8230;.just let me know by saying something else.<br />
You know where to find me and I, you both. legally..so whats it going to be boys?</p>
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		<title>By: Late Night</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/featured/review-artrage-3-road-test/comment-page-1/#comment-2344</link>
		<dc:creator>Late Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s set the record straight: 

Once again, a well known Art Rage advocate fails to identify his bias. Robert Howles (aka Bobby Ray Howles) is the founder, guiding force and website designer for ARTRAGEOUS, a fanboi magazine for (surprise, surprise) Artrage.

http://www.artrageus.net/  

People such as these are NOT your average software user, but deliberately fail to identify themselves in order to push their favorite software.  In other words, they have a hidden agenda.

As scheppel said above, ArtRage still feels like a toy. As such, these advocates can only dream of future possibilites and rail against any objective opinions that don&#039;t think ArtRage is the best thing since sliced religion. Sorry peeps, it just aint so. Ignorance ain&#039;t blis, it&#039;s just ignorance.

Cheers Bob! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s set the record straight: </p>
<p>Once again, a well known Art Rage advocate fails to identify his bias. Robert Howles (aka Bobby Ray Howles) is the founder, guiding force and website designer for ARTRAGEOUS, a fanboi magazine for (surprise, surprise) Artrage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artrageus.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.artrageus.net/</a>  </p>
<p>People such as these are NOT your average software user, but deliberately fail to identify themselves in order to push their favorite software.  In other words, they have a hidden agenda.</p>
<p>As scheppel said above, ArtRage still feels like a toy. As such, these advocates can only dream of future possibilites and rail against any objective opinions that don&#8217;t think ArtRage is the best thing since sliced religion. Sorry peeps, it just aint so. Ignorance ain&#8217;t blis, it&#8217;s just ignorance.</p>
<p>Cheers Bob! <img src='http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scheppel</title>
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		<dc:creator>scheppel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that Painter is more expensive and has a more cluttered interface, but the program feel natural to use. Although Artrage 3 is powerful I could never get over the feeling that I was using a toy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that Painter is more expensive and has a more cluttered interface, but the program feel natural to use. Although Artrage 3 is powerful I could never get over the feeling that I was using a toy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Howle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Howle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob, 

If you read Flynns post it says it correctly exactly what facts are wrong. That is what I was refering to. Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob, </p>
<p>If you read Flynns post it says it correctly exactly what facts are wrong. That is what I was refering to. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - 

If I&#039;ve gotten something wrong, perhaps you could set the record straight. No where in your comment do you say what exactly you take issue with. 

This is my personal blog, to answer your question. I publish this blog once a week to share my knowledge (and opinions) with whomever decides to stop by and read. I make no money from this blog, other than a few affiliate sales once in a blue moon. 

You are free to do the same and tell your side of the story. It&#039;s a free Internet (except in China). 

-Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; </p>
<p>If I&#8217;ve gotten something wrong, perhaps you could set the record straight. No where in your comment do you say what exactly you take issue with. </p>
<p>This is my personal blog, to answer your question. I publish this blog once a week to share my knowledge (and opinions) with whomever decides to stop by and read. I make no money from this blog, other than a few affiliate sales once in a blue moon. </p>
<p>You are free to do the same and tell your side of the story. It&#8217;s a free Internet (except in China). </p>
<p>-Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Howle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Howle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob,

I would like to ask how you got your facts? You are a professional? As far as your opinion, it is your right to give it as you see it. It amazes me that you can be so wrong and yet never even admit it by leaving the incorrect FACTS posted for anyone to read and &quot;believe&quot; as truth even after being advised about it. Where is the professionalism there? Whats wrong with people today???? hummm The truth is out there somewhere.......obviously not here in your story.
You are reaching so many people with false information. Are you proud of that? Please post the REAL FACTs or remove this false information. If you want people to respect you and your opinions,,,at least get the facts right. geez!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>I would like to ask how you got your facts? You are a professional? As far as your opinion, it is your right to give it as you see it. It amazes me that you can be so wrong and yet never even admit it by leaving the incorrect FACTS posted for anyone to read and &#8220;believe&#8221; as truth even after being advised about it. Where is the professionalism there? Whats wrong with people today???? hummm The truth is out there somewhere&#8230;&#8230;.obviously not here in your story.<br />
You are reaching so many people with false information. Are you proud of that? Please post the REAL FACTs or remove this false information. If you want people to respect you and your opinions,,,at least get the facts right. geez!</p>
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		<title>By: Late Night</title>
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		<dc:creator>Late Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Bob. Your reviews do strike me as being as objective as possible while still expressing your opinion. Even handed is the word. 

It seems that some of the ArtRage fanbois want ArtRage to be highly developed after only a few years. How long has Photoshop or Painter been around? Since the early 1990&#039;s-at least.  As you said, these are TOOLS, not objects of religious worship.  I always chuckle when I see that type of slavish devotion. Can&#039;t you just see your auto mechanics at the garage sitting around on their coffee break arguing whether Snap On Tools or Sears tools are better!?!    ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Bob. Your reviews do strike me as being as objective as possible while still expressing your opinion. Even handed is the word. </p>
<p>It seems that some of the ArtRage fanbois want ArtRage to be highly developed after only a few years. How long has Photoshop or Painter been around? Since the early 1990&#8217;s-at least.  As you said, these are TOOLS, not objects of religious worship.  I always chuckle when I see that type of slavish devotion. Can&#8217;t you just see your auto mechanics at the garage sitting around on their coffee break arguing whether Snap On Tools or Sears tools are better!?!    <img src='http://www.digitalimagemagazine.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late Night - 

Thanks for your comment. I try to be honest with my reviews, and I don&#039;t have an agenda. I&#039;m not &quot;pro-Painter&quot; or &quot;anti-Art Rage.&quot; I use Painter and Photoshop, and I continue to try out other products occasionally. Reading my past articles, you&#039;ll see I&#039;m quite upfront with my feelings about Corel and their mishandling of Painter. These things are tools, not sacred cows. I hope that my evaluation of Art Rage will be taken in the spirit it was offered: to make it better. 

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late Night &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I try to be honest with my reviews, and I don&#8217;t have an agenda. I&#8217;m not &#8220;pro-Painter&#8221; or &#8220;anti-Art Rage.&#8221; I use Painter and Photoshop, and I continue to try out other products occasionally. Reading my past articles, you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;m quite upfront with my feelings about Corel and their mishandling of Painter. These things are tools, not sacred cows. I hope that my evaluation of Art Rage will be taken in the spirit it was offered: to make it better. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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